ThorE 22 12 , 2017

Today I acquired a Pelikan pen from my Mother, accustomed to fit in with my Grandfather, What I have found is the fact that it’s most likely a 14k nib, some investigation suggests it might be considered a M400?

My understanding on Pelikan pens is restricted, so any assistance is welcome.

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Bo Bo Olson 22 12 , 2017

100 or 100n. 100 from @ 1929 to 38. 100n from ’38 to 54.

Gold nibs to summer time of ’38. if the amber ink window. before. If eco-friendly ink window following the war. I’ve got a eco-friendly window publish war, eco-friendly ink window 100n. mine includes a first stage superflex nib.

Semi-flex may be the least one expects. unless of course the nib is placed H for hard. or D for added hard.

ThorE 22 12 , 2017

We have an amber ink window I believe, It isn’t been cleaned in around 3 decades, so I am while cleaning it, therefore it is difficult to see for several, but shining light with the ink window it appears amber/brown.

I see there is something placed in the very lower nib, but can’t tell what it really states, around the nib there is a triangular using what appears like one half sun, and 14K written “around” it (following a fringe of the triangular), underneath the 14K measure the level states 585.

dnic 22 12 , 2017

1930/1931 Pelikan 100. Stunning pen!

Edited by dnic, 22 December 2017 – 15:10.

ThorE 22 12 , 2017

Thanks, that appears to suit what my Mother states, it had been a pen my grandfather bought after you have his license like a lawyer.

Thanks to you.

piscov 22 12 , 2017

This can be a rare and valuable pen!

As Dominic states it’s from 1930/31 pen.

I look to possess a very early bakelite barrel along with a rare olive eco-friendly sleeve.

Collectors spend years searching for just one such as this and also you first got it as the first pen!! Congratulations!! Cherish rid of it.

If you choose to market it tell me, I’ll want to consider adding it to my collection.

piscov 22 12 , 2017

Returning to the barrel. When the colour of a lot of it window by a crimson-brown crimson color it’s Bakelite. Individuals barrels are extremely rare and were utilized in 1929 and 30. If it´s amber color it’s most likely celluloid, not too rare as the first. Place the pen before an easy and take notice of the color.

Azuniga 22 12 , 2017

Wow, that’s a great pen !

And, incidentally, welcome, you usually find solutions here.

DrCodfish 22 12 , 2017

ThorE 22 12 , 2017

This can be a rare and valuable pen!

As Dominic states it’s from 1930/31 pen.

I look to possess a very early bakelite barrel along with a rare olive eco-friendly sleeve.

Collectors spend years searching for just one such as this and also you first got it as the first pen!! Congratulations!! Cherish rid of it.

If you choose to market it tell me, I’ll want to consider adding it to my collection.

Returning to the barrel. When the colour of a lot of it window by a crimson-brown crimson color it’s Bakelite. Individuals barrels are extremely rare and were utilized in 1929 and 30. If it´s amber color it’s most likely celluloid, not too rare as the first. Place the pen before an easy and take notice of the color.

Awesome, The barrel is red/amber-ant and never very obvious: https://i.imgur.com/qJbGIfZ.digital, that stated, not my first pen, but it is around the fir year anniversary when ever I received my first pen.

The sleeve includes a crack inside it, and it is been used within a lawyer career, it’s especially apparent around the cap, the Pelikan emblem and writing round the cap is extremely faint.

Also from curiousity, what’s the ballpark worth of a pen like this? Not likely to split up by using it though, a minimum of not in the near future so a precise on condition valuation is not necessary

I’m a fan of those early Pelikans, though I haven’t got one as old as yours. One factor not pointed out but essential is the fact that these pens a fragile. Make sure to fix it very lightly, and realize that to decrease it’s to leave behind grandpa’s pen. But after you have it neat and working, utilize it (carefully) go ahead and.

I have been cleaning it with water in the tap for any couple of hrs, gradually working a lot of it that’s been inside it during the last 3 decades from it. I really hope to ink up with a few Bungubox Yams Purle later today or tomorrow.

Edited by ThorE, 22 December 2017 – 18:03.

Bo Bo Olson 22 12 , 2017

In I am only likely to make use of this once, simply to show the Degussa mark, I have not requested permission like I’ve two times previously to make use of their so fine nibs.

But see if the objective is identical.

In the beginning Pelikan used nibs having a heart shape from MB. It may be either of a couple of things, A. additionally they purchased a couple of nibs from Degussa which required within the Osmia nib factory in 1932. and ongoing to help make the grand Osmia nibs for Osmia. and Osmia had also made nibs for other people.

B. It is a substitute nib. if that’s the case it’s an excellent substitute nib.

Like a ‘Noob’. I had been so foolish to consider only ‘in house’ nibs were worthwhile. Actually I almost thrown a Degussa** along with a Bock nib. since i am ignorant. Fortunately these were small, so got include a small box that began an accumulation of loose nibs.

Osmia named it’s self following the Osnimum compound, introduced by a Heidelberg Professor. then your best tipping on the planet. Degussa which required over Osmia’s nib factory in 1932 conditioned for doing things.

There have been other ‘out of house’ good nib makers. Rupp 1922-70. Bock 1938-now are a couple of more Heidelberg makers.

** I’ve got a couple of Degussa steel first stage of superflex nibs. things i call Easy Full Flex. happens harder than Wet Noodle. I’ve got a system that I’ll not get into here, which i designed to rate flex in nibs. Individuals nibs solved the problem discover that system.

I additionally come with an Artus/Degussa nib, that’s regular flex.

Osmia nibs having a Gemstone. usually having a number size inside it are semi-flex. Individuals that say Supra are maxi-semi-flex. but were always marked Osmia, not Degussa.

I’ve requested for permission to make use of the image.

Crimson and red are Bad for ink home windows. 1

Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 22 December 2017 – 18:05.

ThorE 22 12 , 2017

I inked up with Bungubox Yams Crimson to perform a writing test, writes very well

piscov 22 12 , 2017

From that picture, I’m convinced you to definitely have indeed a bakelite barrel. This and also the sleeve helps make the pen unusual along with a very early illustration of a Pelikan 100.

Regarding the value, it’s difficult to say, since the condition is all things in pen collecting. Inside your situation according to what you are saying, your cap is worn ( and not the greatest condition in your pen) and also the sleeve is broken ( this can be a serious problem when it comes to impact in value) and you’ve got a non-original nib ( another serious problem). Everything impacts heavily around the value

Edited by piscov, 22 December 2017 – 20:47.

Bo Bo Olson 22 12 , 2017

Again, red and crimson inks are Bad for ink home windows.

For old ink home windows you have had lots of problems getting cleaner. well it is your pen.

Do fix it well after one load of Crimson ink.

Did the Degussa nib match the objective on yours?

Herlitz nibs (and not the Luxor (produced by Herlitz) or otherwise on all Luxor nibs) a a pyramid, divided in two with lines of horizontal type within the right hands side along with a H under it.

ThorE 22 12 , 2017

The emblem matches, although not the position from it, The emblem on mine is bigger, and also the only things I am in a position to discern around the nib is exactly what I authored in publish #3, there’s more under 585, but with magnification, I am not able to inform what it really states

daenghafez 23 12 , 2017

Matlock 23 12 , 2017

The emblem matches, although not the position from it, The emblem on mine is bigger, and also the only things I am in a position to discern around the nib is exactly what I authored in publish #3, there’s more under 585, but with magnification, I am not able to inform what it really states

Bo Bo provides some very helpful information on non Pelikan nibs. Plus it was very common that people alter the nib on their own pen, I’ve got a 100 of comparable period having a Conway Stewart nib. Regardless of the answer, you’ve got a great pen.

Bo Bo Olson 23 12 , 2017

My Degussa nibs (mostly steel. factor out side my Degussa-Aurtus(regular flex) about certainly one of mine are steel, has got the Degussa sign greater and wider. Individuals steel ones are superflex, within the first stage, things i call Easy Full Flex.

So far as I understand Osmia did not make superflex. just semi-flex using the gemstone and maxi-semi-flex using the Supra marked nibs. after ’32 Degussa bought in the Osmia nib factory.

So you will have a good nib.

ThorE 23 12 , 2017

Thanks all for that feedback and understanding of this pen.

sargetalon 23 12 , 2017

Excellent pen, congratulations!. Its made all of the better through the history behind it. Cherish it.

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