Teacher Man 28 Apr 2018

This began since i like fineliners, I’d a dim memory of tinkering with technical pens long ago, and that i such as the most of the colours in Rohrer & Klingner’s Antiktusche line. So, a couple of days ago, I acquired really thinking about the potential of using acrylic inks, that is what they’re, in technical pens. (I love all-in-one pens rather of dip pens. Personal taste.)

Incidentally, technical pens or dip pens or whatever, go and take a look at individuals Antiktusche colours. I higly recommend not just Rohrer & Klingner’s website, however the swabs at http://www.kalligrap. ntiktusche.html. If you reside in Europe, you may then are interested your ink there too, to aid them for setting up these useful swabs.

First, I looked this forum for helpful information. Regrettably, you always get people who don’t really browse the question after which provide you with advice they’ve heard somewhere. Quite simply: You may well ask, can acrylic inks be utilized in technical pens, and individuals provides you with categorical advice like, only fountain pen ink should bne utilized in fountain pens! Ah. Quite. The technical pen isn’t a fountain pen. Also: When I have since learned, even fountain pens may take acrylic inks, provided you’re for added work and care. If you are using old or costly pens, it seems sensible to consider no rists. If you’re available to trying some weirder things, fool around!

Second, I mailed both Rotring and Rohrer & Klingner. Rotring, unsurprisingly, will explain that just inks produced by Rotring are secure for his or her pens. Should you used other things, you void the warranty. Rohrer & Klingner will explain that, in principle, their Inks are acceptable for the Isograph, the Rapidograph, the Rotring Art Pen. The key bit may be the “in principle”. Individuals pens are made with highly pigmented ink in your mind, to ensure that won’t become your problem. The acrylic bit will make things dangerous. If acrylic ink dries, it stops being water solluble. So, should you let a pen dry up, you can finish track of a good mass which can’t be cleaned out of your pen.

Third, I’ve begun buying technical pens from various manufacturers, and not every one of them have arived, yet. I’ve also begun tinkering with a couple of of individuals Antiktusche inks. What I haven’t yet done is let a pen dry up completely and find out what you can do using the cleaner fluids from either Rotring or Rohrer & Klingner.

Once all of the pens I purchased have showed up, I’ll write something about how exactly they compare. And eventually, obviously you will dry out. And So I will publish about the expertise of cleaning it.

Main point here to date: You will get some techical pens for less than € 10. There’s pointless to not alter acrylic ink inside a technical pen, even though you fear it’ll get rid of the pen eventually. You are able to perform a lot worse with € 10, I am certain. Also: Acrylic ink, unlike fountain pen ink, happens to be amazing for writing postcards, which nowadays are frequently horrible at handling fountain pen ink. I kave some cards which become a complete nightmare in the first drop of even my favorite socialized inks. Acrylic ink works like no bodies business!

Because of Rohrer & Klingner, in addition to RoyalBlueNotebooks and fiberdrunk for help / advice.

sidthecat 30 Apr 2018

aderoy 30 Apr 2018

The seal around the point is effective so no dry outs, clean between fills according to normal so to not have any build-up.

Teacher Man 04 May 2018

Okay, things i have discovered to date.

I’ve been experimenting with a few technical pens. I’ve filled all of them with Rohrer & Klingner Antiktusche acrylic ink, although many people about this forum cautioned me this would be a horrible mistake. I haven’t attempted the Staedtler Mars yet, since there was an amazon . com glitch, and i’ll need to order it again. I actually do have first hands experience with the Rotring Isograph, the Faber-Castell TG1-S, the Stano Professional and also the Standardgraph Color.

The Stano appears relatively cheaply made, and also the Standardgraph is short in my taste. The Isograph appears probably the most well-built, but carefully adopted through the TG1-S. All of them write with no problem.

The Antiktusche colours I’ve all look great during these technical pens. You acquire some nice shading.

A couple of days ago, I cleaned two technical pens, and water was enough to get rid of the majority of the ink in the pens. Some ink had dried out around the outdoors from the pen, and so i attempted Rohrer & Klingner’s cleaning fluid, which states be appropriate for fountain pens, so it ought to be acceptable for technical pens. It cleared up the acrylic ink with no trace, also it left all of the plastic parts intact.

So. To date the content appears to become: For proper care of you pens, you are able to securely ignore all of the naysayers.

paradigm 05 May 2018

So. To date the content appears to become: For proper care of you pens, you are able to securely ignore all of the naysayers.

sidthecat 10 May 2018

Has anybody put these inks into .13 or .18 pens? This is the size the sister uses and she or he longs for any more permanent black and white.

Teacher Man 11 May 2018

Has anybody put these inks into .13 or .18 pens? This is the size the sister uses and she or he longs for any more permanent black and white.

I haven’t gone below 2.5 yet. But when she’s only searching for any solid black, may be the Rotring black not permanent enough? (Paradigm above appears to possess gone a great deal narrower than me, with great results.)

Edited by Teacher Man, 11 May 2018 – 11:27.

sidthecat 11 May 2018

She loves to blend it with water color and it is not as dark or permanent as she’d like.

Teacher Man 18 May 2018

Okay, Now i had the opportunity to have fun with the Staedtler Mars matic a little. Appears to be really well-crafted,

Teacher Man 18 May 2018

Have finally been dealing with these pens for a while, using acrylic inks. No clogging, no problems whatsoever. I’ve also cleaned four only using water, plus they havce cleared up fine so far as I will tell. I have tried personally Rohrer & Klingner Reiniger on two others, since they had small acrylic ink stains around the outdoors which didn’t appear with water. The stains came off, the pens didn’t dissolve.

Teacher Man 18 May 2018

So, with different bit more than a month of expertise, I am unable to make sure filling acrylic inks right into a technical pen can make it block and die. For reasonable proper care of your pens, you ought to be fine.

Teacher Man 19 May 2018

Footnot: The white-colored plactic from the Stano Professional includes a inclination to stain. Therefore the inside parts which are exposed to your ink usually takes on its colour.

Drawing61 20 May 2018

I made use of technical pens for a long time within my artwork and also the constant clogging, skipping, clogging nearly drove me to accept bitter pill. Pointless to state I’ve got a love/hate relationship together. Lately I donated my sizable assortment of Rotring Rapidographs to a person who could use them. I stored my Isographs because you never know?

Fountain pens be more effective. Fountain pen inks be more effective. Acrylic inks could be lovely but best combined with a dip pen or perhaps a brush.

Teacher Man 20 May 2018

I made use of technical pens for a long time within my artwork and also the constant clogging, skipping, clogging nearly drove me to accept bitter pill. Pointless to state I’ve got a love/hate relationship together. Lately I donated my sizable assortment of Rotring Rapidographs to a person who could use them. I stored my Isographs because you never know?

Fountain pens be more effective. Fountain pen inks be more effective. Acrylic inks could be lovely but best combined with a dip pen or perhaps a brush.

Very sorry to listen to that. I keep hearing these tales, and that i keep thinking I have to do a problem. To date, none of my pens, from .8 to .2, have experienced any difficulties with clogging or skipping.

Edited by Teacher Man, 20 May 2018 – 08:48.

sciumbasci 20 May 2018

Teacher Man 20 May 2018

Can these use India ink, like J. Herbin lawyers’?
How easy are these pens to create within a office atmosphere?

Technical pens are made to use very higly pigmented inks. Because they are essentially a skinny needle, there’s no feed to block. You need to take proper care of them enough therefore the thin needle doesn’t dry up, because cleaning that (based on width) could be rather difficult. So, India ink should work fine.

They are created to be used vertically, that is a strange experience. However, I’ve found that .5 technical pens may be used like fineliners.

I really hope this can help.

paradigm 22 May 2018

So far as I understand so that as my little experience shows, all Rapidographers and isografs could be written in an position. A minimum of 90 to 45 levels exactly.
It’s another matter whether or not they all easily start at 45 levels towards the paper and just what thickness the road is offered within this position.

The declared thickness from the Rapidographs is guaranteed within the vertical position (the higher the deviation in the vertical – the thinner the road).
And also the isographs write comparable thickness at both an position and vertically.

Even though the isografs in the declared thickness from the knot tend to be more than .7, an obvious factor may be the thickness from the metal rim round the tip from the tip tube. Due to this, large thickness isographs, it appears, also begin to provide a thinner line compared to a vertical position.

superfly 20 Jun 2018

I’ve spent my student days (studying architecture at that time between your industry transitioning from hands drawing to CAD), and know them well. They are actually intended to be used vertically, and will not optimally write alternative way since the tip from the pen is essentially a tube having a needle inside it, imaginable the issues using the geometry if you are using it angled.

The only real ink that entered mine was the Rotring Drawing Ink (Encre de Chine, India ink), and that i used 96% Ethanol to soak the nibs in when dried with ink.

fundamental primer on technical pens here:

Teacher Man 28 Jun 2018

So far as I understand so that as my little experience shows, all Rapidographers and isografs could be written in an position. A minimum of 90 to 45 levels exactly.
It’s another matter whether or not they all easily start at 45 levels towards the paper and just what thickness the road is offered within this position.

The declared thickness from the Rapidographs is guaranteed within the vertical position (the higher the deviation in the vertical – the thinner the road).
And also the isographs write comparable thickness at both an position and vertically.

Even though the isografs in the declared thickness from the knot tend to be more than .7, an obvious factor may be the thickness from the metal rim round the tip from the tip tube. Due to this, large thickness isographs, it appears, also begin to provide a thinner line compared to a vertical position.

They are created to be used vertically. Some may also effectively be applied out an position. They’re still ment for use vertically. No real contradiction.

Teacher Man 20 March 2018

Just recognized having a shock that I’d left my technical pens uncleaned and unused for around four several weeks. Returned for them fearing the worst. Not just one is clogged or dried out.

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